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How to Select an Engineering College? | Choosing an Engineering College and Branch

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How to choose an engineering college? Selecting an engineering college and a branch after 12th for your specific grades in the entrance exam can be challenging. Which engineering college should you choose? What is the best branch of engineering now? Which college is best for you? Should you live in a hostel or stay at home? And should you choose a college nearest to your house? Does engineering college even matter?

If you think find these questions relatable and you want to choose the best engineering branch for yourself, you're at the right place. This video precisely explains all these things in a digestible manner with good reasoning. Learn how to choose the best engineering college now.

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Full article accompanying this episode: https://punetech.com/how-to-choose-an-engineering-college-branch-after-12th/

Prof. Dheeraj Sanghi’s guide to choosing an IIT and a branch: http://dsanghi.blogspot.in/2015/06/a-guide-to-jee-counseling-2015.html

Chapters:
00:00 Introduction
01:13 The problem
02:09 The advise
02:23 The branch
04:14 Supply and demand
06:32 Branch vs interest
09:10 The exception
11:04 Does college matter?
14:53 College vs branch
16:24 Home vs hostel
20:44 Unfavorable situations

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stay in the hostel right don't stay at home how do you how do you tell the pain what do you tell the parents grow up you tell the parents to grow up in today's episode we are going to talk about how to choose an engineering college and a branch after 12th standard one second what I know I know this uh we usually talk about topics of Broad and general interest to everybody this one is specific to students who have just finished 12th standard or their parents uh but this is such an important and stressful topic we thought we should cover it even if you are not a 12 standard student you probably know someone who is please forward a link to
them yeah in a couple of we'll spend a couple of episodes on decisions for higher education and we'll get back to regular programming after that stay tuned and I think the results are out or going to be out or something like that by the time this comes out and then again if you think about it he is talking about future as in future of students and future of parents so we are still future IQ but we'll get back to regular programming shortly but today we are talking about about the standard 12th standard um every year about a million students in India go through this harrowing procedure of having to choose which college okay branch it is
an extremely stressful time because there are too many choices there is not enough data and information on how to decide and it seems like you know this is like the one decision which is going to make or break the future of your life but it is isn't it I was always told when I was back in 12 that this decision will make or break your life it I don't know what it did but it did something to my life yeah I think we will talk a little bit about all of those right it's an important decision but not that important really plus what is a good way to approach this decision that's an interesting take on things before we get
into all the nitty-gritty details and all the frequently asked questions let me get fast forward to the end my advice is get into the best college you can in terms of ranking ignore the branch that's it that's the advice okay hold up ignore the branch is it isn't it all about choosing a specific card it's not a branch is not really that important okay for some reason we just spent way too much time thinking about the branch either because of this branch has scope and this Branch doesn't have scope but it is the scope is one of the most important things not really okay first of all uh right just because you studied in a particular
Branch doesn't mean that your career is going to be in that Branch okay the number of people I know who have switched after engineering are really large okay second is that the importance of branches and the scope keeps changing okay partially because the world keeps changing your career is 50 years whereas I mean you know the scope keeps changing uh every five to ten years third is uh because even if something like computer science has a lot of scope right do you know in the U.S today which is the branch that has the highest average salary it is not computer science Investment Banking is it in engineering within engineering chemical engineering really do you think the number of
chemical engineering jobs in the US are more than computer science absolutely absolutely not yeah what is happening I have no okay honestly I should put a disclaimer here I am not an engineer I am a BAC graduate and an MSC Dropout so I am not really sure are a host of future IQ if you were paying attention to one of our previous episodes supply and demand you would know the answer okay I was paying attention I was letting people decide just themselves and figure out for themselves it's a test for them not for me yes it's a test for you what is going on here right think of the answer while we take a half a second break okay don't
break and so as soon as the number of people who go for that branch and if you are in India the number of engineering colleges that get set up for that branch is so high that there is an oversupply quickly right right and then both the salaries fall the supply Falls the number of people who don't get jobs false and put all events out so pricing happens then lots of Ubers come and then exactly everything evens out if you don't understand that reference go check out that episode hot branches get an oversupply right sometimes you are better off with a more traditional branch in general I think that any branch which has a well established uh
tradition right and lots of colleges teaching that discipline has scope okay and finally in the long term nobody remembers which branch you studied this I can absolutely attest to this I can absolutely agree to I did an MSC in physics well I dropped out of an MSC in physics but my degree is no longer relevant to the kind of stuff I'm doing the education definitely helped what I learned definitely helped but the degree yeah I mean basically when I look at people in the software industry right the number of them from civil engineering mechanical engineering is so high right conversely if I see people who did say metallurgical engineering the number of interesting careers they are in from making movies
in Bollywood to head of an ad agency to being a senior person in a top charity in the world right all of these are my personal friends this is actually a scavenger hunt for you try and figure out which people Naveen is referring to and if you know the answer post it in the comments or send an email or send a message to Naveen I know a chemical engineer who did really great things in cricket and became like the highest Wicket Taker and what not in test Cricket figure out who that was yes but uh is this advice applicable all the time like branch is absolutely not important so depends right I mean one of
the complaints I always hear when I give this advice giving this advice for 15 years now is that oh but what about interest yeah okay you know what ninety percent of the 12 standard students don't really have an interest okay they have no clue what actual engineering is like and what actual job in that field is like right I mean they have learned maybe one subject from a bad teacher and another subject from a good picture and based on that and more likely their parents tell them something and the media is telling them something about what is not and that is interesting that is not really interesting you are absolutely right and that actually brings me to another
question which we should have a detailed discussion later on are we badgering our students into deciding their career too early we will come to that do an entire episode on that yeah but let's come back to this yes please which is that lots of students do believe that they really like this field but they don't really like this subject I mean you probably hated history when you were in school I did here is the simple explanation of that huh if you hate a subject very likely it was taught to you by a bad teacher or the syllabus was terrible yeah okay if you like a subject very likely it was taught to you by a good subject
teacher uh or you know that was done well in school right yeah uh in fact that happened to me uh when I finished my undergraduate in IIT Bombay I Thought I Loved programming languages and I hated databases right when I went to Wisconsin to do my PhD I discovered that Wisconsin is like world number one in databases okay so I said okay maybe there's some here databases I should do one course to see what it is like and it was fascinating it was like way better than what I had imagined databases to be like right all SQL programmers in the chat are like what is he saying the point is that when a great teacher teaches you any topic it becomes
interesting that I absolutely agree so so what you want to do is get into a good college where there are going to be good teachers and whatever Branch you take is going to become interesting and right that's what you should be doing now there's one small caveat okay one exception there is a very tiny number of students who have actually done non-substantial amount of work in one particular area right like maybe somebody says they're interested in computers and they have actually built non-trivial apps right or there might be some students who have just gone ahead and started reading graduate level uh textbooks and so on those people should absolutely go further into area of Interest they should go for a branch
that Branch right so basically if I look at uh say a a fighter jet of an F22 F-35 or a bomber and then decide I want to become an aeronautical engineer that is a stupid decision that's a bad decision because aeronautic an aeronautical engineer is going to sit at a laptop and type complicated equations you are not going to be flying a jet okay although I should point out that there is a Pune University course which is a mixture of Aeronautical Engineering and flying you spend two years learning flying two years learning Aeronautics so and details will be in the show notes and the description we'll make sure anyway the point is that the students who have
an actual interest right anywhere they are not not going around asking what branch should I take then no yeah right they're not going to be listening to this episode so the people who are listening to this episode ignore the branch okay but uh would you say this would also apply to uh people in non-engineering fields like say yeah I'm not saying that if you are an artist and you uh you know they should ignore that and become an engineering this advice applies to choosing branches within engineering okay yeah the switch over doesn't apply when you're going from engineering all the way to uh art or music or something like that fair enough let me let me pose a different question
to you now you said the branch is not at all important yeah but you said go to our top college yeah so the college matters College absolutely absolutely matters there are four reasons why uh college is important right one is that college has a better college has better teachers and better teachers to make a big difference sec second is that a better College will have better peer Group which is the students along with you are all better okay correct uh in terms of uh you know both higher IQ higher ability to work hard higher ambition and that matters they say you are the average of the five people closest to you right so if the five
people around you are smarter and more ambitious you are going to become smarter and more ambitious at the end of four years although you will feel dumb initially you win that's extremely important Point okay if in a group of friends you don't feel dumb if you're always the smartest person amongst a group of friends you are in the wrong group you need to find new friends you should feel dumb okay that's a great situation to be in I always feel down when I'm with him so I mean the best possible situation right now I am enjoying this so better peer group third reason why a college is good is because it gives you better networking
opportunities 20 years later uh all the people your classmates will all be in like you know important positions and that Network right people you spent your formative years with uh is going to be important to you in your career more than that right somebody from your college five years senior to you right is also going to give you a better chances simply because they're from the same College human brain works like that okay yeah I hold on one second there is there is there is something happening behind the camera yes the thing uh during my college yes or rather throughout my school in college I was totally disinterested but my dad gave me one life tip yeah
that this was in Hindi and it's best to delivered in Hindi yeah um this is extremely important okay that in a group of friends huh you feel dumb huh and sometimes there are some others who are probably not doing as well as the Toppers of the group and they look dumb ankush dad said right and I guarantee you that most of them are going to be doing well and if you are in touch with them it will help you in many many ways yeah I agree with that all of my school friends are doing really really well and I'm absolutely not in touch with them yeah maybe they'll look at this video and then message me hi guys message me
well they look at you as the accomplished person that they can network with oh they are far more accomplished than I could ever be so uh Kudos we're still at number three yes number four number four is that a better college has better infrastructure right better Labs uh better connects with industry and so on right all of these things do matter in fact I would say they matter much more than the specific branch that you have picked there is one small problem yeah a top tier College will have 60 maybe 120 seats per uh whatever field Spain what happens to the Rain oh first of all just to clarify what I mean an undesirable branch in a good college
is better than a top branch in a bad college right a lot of fight in the comments oh absolutely I'm happy to fight all of you I have actual experience of this I can connect you to people who have taken this advice and who got back to me saying it was a good thing they did that gloves are off okay so I mean of course they have to be like significant difference in the college right if you're getting Metallurgy in IIT Delhi and you're getting computer science in bits belonging go for computer science and bit spilani because roughly the same yeah but if you are getting Metallurgy and it Delhi versus uh computer science and bharti vidyapee
today go for IIT Delhi no question when he says it when he puts it like that it makes sense so I agree with him although I've never done engineering but I agree with him because the same thing will apply also to a BSC or a ba or something like that correct yeah so yeah undesirable branch in a good college versus a good branch in a bad College the former absolutely wins uh one I have one uh I mean whenever I give this advice another common complaint I get uh is that oh but that college is so far away right I my child for my child I want a college which is in the same city
so sending someone to Delhi is very very very much love too far man from Queen this is a huge mistake okay um in fact what I say is that after 12th the student should be kicked out of the home and they should be made to live by themselves either in a hostel or uh in a flat with a bunch right I mean basically that's where the real growing up happens okay the subjects that you learn in college are just 15 to 20 percent of your education most of your education happens from living by yourself uh dealing time management group projects being in a group of friends and dealing with all the drama that happens that is
the real education right you know that most parents are afraid of this real education that you have just outlined because within that outline there are a lot of between the lines things that they're afraid of the there is they're mistaken okay because whatever it is they're afraid of I have seen enough examples of students staying at home and doing the things that their parents are afraid of with the parents not even realizing and conversely right if you have given the right kind of upbringing to your kid it doesn't matter where they are they will pick up the good habits around them and they will be mature enough to ignore the bad influences point a definitely
point a but now let me let me pose a googly to you yeah okay there is a uh top college yeah and it is in the same city should I go for that college or not I absolutely you should go for it just make sure that you know even though the college is in the same city in fact it could be next to your home still go and stay in the hostel right don't stay at home how do you how do you tell the pain what do you tell the parents grow up you tell the parents to grow up you know let your child grow up it is time to let go okay um but okay this is a little difficult
to digest and this is a little difficult to it's not that difficult you think about it calmly you'll realize that it makes a lot of sense Fair uh ask people who have been through it right I'm not I don't know anybody would say you know what I'm so glad I stayed at home through my college whereas anybody who stayed in the hostel you asked them and they'll say best experience of my life okay what if the top college is in some really obscure place like I I don't I can't even think of a top Collision yes what what happens then because again it depends on how different the levels are right if there is a IIT kharagpur
versus again bharti vidyapeeth Pune I don't want to pick on them I'm just taking an example of a there's a difference in the rankings even if it's there is a difference in the rankings are not we are not saying bharti with is essentially bad or anything yeah it's a good college but not at the same level as the IIT delhi's and kadakpura and it's pilani so then you want to go to IIT kharagpur but if it is a comparable College then you definitely want to pick the one uh in a bigger city big city has a lot of advantages right uh I mean as the exposure you get of living in a big city uh is really good for the student
uh that college is also likely to have much better connects with industry much better options for the students to do extracurricular activities all of that helps right the exposure to a big city at the end of four years makes a difference in how you communicate how you carry yourself how you come across in interviews it helps after living in a big city will of course be very beneficial because that entire Urban experience is also important for you growing up as a person so I do agree with him there but now I'm thinking what if there is a person who's worse off in every possible situation like doesn't have great grades uh can't get a good
Branch can't get a good college can't get can't can't find anything in a good yes uh it happens okay for example you know you might just have had some health issues around 12 standard exams and acros exams so you couldn't get into anything good does it mean that your life has ended okay there are so many exam samples of people who studied in a bad College bad location and still did extremely well all it means is that you have to work a little harder to be able to rise above your surroundings right and you need a little more discipline and usually the the shock you get at the end of 12th standard of not having gotten into a
college that you wanted to get into is enough to Spur many students into the extra discipline needed to do well in spite of being in a bad college right so I'm not saying that if you didn't get into a great College then your life is over right just means that you have to work a little harder that's all and by the way if you are a student and if you are feeling that your life is over please comment before you do anything else and wait for us to respond before you do anything else please find someone to talk to before you take an extreme step you know what I'm talking about life does not end because you got ad
scores bad grades in 12th or 10th or even engineering or at any point absolutely true very important right I mean India for some reason gives way too much importance to 12th standard and which college you get into um and it is not at all that important I did not do engineering I am here I am sitting here telling you what to do with your life let me give One More Story please right uh in my day job uh I run a service where we give programming challenges to uh students and those who do well uh get interviews with companies right careful of planned and one of those uh challenges was solved by a student with such a good uh submission
that I actually contacted that student to find out where he learned uh this solution yeah very learned to write programs like this turns out this student was not even doing forget a top college he was not even doing computer science he wasn't even doing BSC he was a become student who had just taught himself Haskell a programming language that most computer scientists and top colleges don't know okay so I was very impressed I did manage to get in an excellent job just on the basis of that but I asked him how did you manage to teach yourself this and his answer I loved he said because I'm doing a bcom I have lots of time to
learn on my own I ended up doing become because I did badly in maths during my 12th standard my other friends who did well they ended up in engineering college and they are so busy with pointless submissions that they don't have the time to learn like I do what a fascinating Outlook towards life I am loving it but does this mean people in other careers like journalism can also or should also get into engineering or what so I mean you know like I said this is all within if you have that engineering uh sort of mindset right okay I mean if you did badly in physics and maths don't push yourself to into engineering don't let your parents
push your push you into engineering go find some it is clear that you are not interested in physics and maths yeah find something else that you are interested in something else that you're good at there are lovely careers in all of that thankfully you are growing up in an India which is not the same India that your parents grew up in okay what about parents had a different set of priorities you can take more chances you can try there is you know so many interesting careers in the world just start looking And for those of you who are trying to get interested in physics and maths but just can't find it and seem to always get stuck in a pit of
despair there is an episode for you called the dip which you should check out which will give you an idea of whether or not you should continue through that bit of Despair yes go check it out this is me srikant Naveen thank you future IQ